Sept. 29, 2025

Hosting Surprise Houseguests, Correcting Misspelled Signs, Sending Late Sympathy Cards, and More

Etiquette, manners, and beyond! In this episode, Nick and Leah answer listener questions about hosting surprise houseguests, correcting misspelled signs, sending late sympathy cards, and much more. Please follow us! (We'd send you a hand-written thank you note if we could.)

 

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QUESTIONS FROM THE WILDERNESS:

  • What’s the best way to handle being surprised by four extra houseguests?
  • When is it appropriate to tell a business that some of their signage is misspelled?
  • Is it appropriate to send a sympathy card four years after the fact?
  • What should we do if a server says she'll comp our drinks but then leaves them on the bill?
  • Is there a polite way to ask someone where they got their bra?

 

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Episode 281

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Nick: Hey, everybody. It's Nick Leighton.

Leah: And it's Leah Bonnema.

Nick: And we had so many great questions from you all in the wilderness ...

Leah: [howls]

Nick: ... that we have a bonus episode. So here we go. Our first question is quote, "I recently had a situation with a family member that I wasn't sure how to respond to. Our family member—let's call her Lisa—contacted us to see if in three weeks she, her teenage daughter and her daughter's friend could come and stay at our house for the weekend. We eagerly said yes, it would be lovely to see them all. Then about 10 days later, she contacted us again and said her husband and younger child would also be joining them, making the guest list increase to five. We agreed that it would be lovely to see everyone and we looked forward to hosting them.

"In the late afternoon of the day they were expected to arrive, I received a call saying that they had stopped in a town about an hour away and would be heading our way shortly. During the phone conversation, I casually asked, 'So how many people are coming? Three or five?' Lisa said, 'Oh, actually, I asked some other friends if they would like to join us, so there are nine of us. But don't worry, the teenagers brought sleeping bags.' I was speechless. I had spent most of the day rearranging beds and furniture to ensure that everyone had a comfortable place to sleep, but was not prepared for four additional guests. Not to mention, the grocery shopping I'd done wasn't sufficient to feed four additional people—especially teenagers. They all arrived and took over our house, staying for four days, eating everything in sight. Plus, four of the people staying in our home were total strangers to us. We have always been welcoming to family and friends staying in our home and go out of our way to make people feel welcome, but I felt completely taken advantage of in this situation. What would have been the best way to handle this?"

Leah: I mean, this could be a Bonkers.

Nick: I mean, this is a Bonkers. What?

Leah: What?

Nick: Nine people?

Leah: From three. Three to nine.

Nick: Three to nine. I mean, that's—that's a big jump.

Leah: They weren't even gonna bring it up.

Nick: No.

Leah: They were on their way, and you called and asked and they were like, "Oh, nine."

Nick: "Oh, by the way."

Leah: "But they have sleeping bags."

Nick: "Oh, it's fine."

Leah: It's like they don't even count.

Nick: Oh, they have sleeping bags. [laughs] I mean, yeah, what do we do with this?

Leah: Well, I think this is one of those situations where we could not be prepared.

Nick: How could you be? This is so shocking.

Leah: This is shocking.

Nick: There is no script in your back pocket for when four strangers in sleeping bags just show up at your house.

Leah: [laughs] I love that on top of it all, they're strangers. "Oh, we brought some teenagers."

Nick: Um, yeah. And, like, oh, that's fine because they have sleeping bags. I love how that just excuses it.

Leah: It actually makes it weirder, because that means that they had a full conversation about how they knew that our letter-writer wasn't prepared with the beds.

Nick: Oh, that's a good point. Oh yeah, it was premeditated. Yeah. It wasn't just like, "Oh, these teenagers, like, showed up in my car on the way and, like, oh, I guess they're with us now." It's like, no, they had time to, like, get sleeping bags.

Leah: And that could have been time when they were calling our letter-writer to be like, "Hey, we picked up these four random children."

Nick: [laughs] Yes.

Leah: Also, I think it's wild. Insult to injury: staying for four days, ate everything in sight.

Nick: Yeah. I don't get the sense that they brought extra groceries or pitched in at all. I'm not getting that vibe.

Leah: I'm not getting that vibe.

Nick: And teenagers, it's true. They—they really—they could really eat you out of house and home.

Leah: I imagine that they actually probably ate parts of the home.

Nick: [laughs] They're just, like, eating the potpourri.

Leah: [laughs] "The soap was so good!"

Nick: All the soy sauce packets in the drawer.

Leah: I mean—I mean, I even eat condiments. You know what I mean? A good relish? For sure. For sure they just cleared you out.

Nick: Yeah. There's like, nothing left. Yeah. All the glue. Yeah. They're like goats. Anything that has glue on it.

Leah: Our poor letter-writer's sitting there after they leave with just, like, pieces of their furniture chewed off.

Nick: [laughs] I guess what I find sort of—I mean, this is so common, though. But what is going on in people's heads where they're like, "Oh, it is totally fine for me to invite other people to your house without asking you." Like, this is happening all over the place. And, like, what is wrong with people?

Leah: I really don't know. Like, I really don't—I do not understand how somebody would think that was okay.

Nick: Because it's not. Full stop. And, like, why are people doing this?

Leah: I even feel guilty when I call somebody and be like, "Hey, so and so is staying with me. I know I was supposed to come. May I bring them?"

Nick: Yeah. I mean ...

Leah: I'm obviously asking. I would never not ask. But then even just to be like, oh, I'm changing—I'm changing the original agreement, I feel a little guilty.

Nick: Yeah. Yeah, that can be awkward.

Leah: Totally fine if I don't come. You know what I mean? I totally get that I'm changing it.

Nick: But yeah, just to, like, show up with somebody? I could not imagine!

Leah: Just to show up. And for an overnight?

Nick: For four days? Yeah. I mean, for a dinner party, this is bad. For four days? I mean, that's so bold!

Leah: But they—Nick, they have sleeping bags.

Nick: They have sleeping bags, so it's fine. [laughs] So yes, just to make it very clear, this is rude. Don't do it. So how to handle it?

Leah: I mean, are we saying how to handle it moving forward, or what could we do if somebody calls us that we thought was just coming over with two other people and they're like, "There's seven more?"

Nick: I mean, they're an hour away, so there's nothing we can do at this point. We can't be like, "Turn around."

Leah: [laughs] No. The only thing we can do is, like, close our door and turn all the lights off and be like, "I forgot to mention to you that we moved."

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. So I think, you know, you do just need to be a good host and tough it out on some level. I hate that answer, though. I hate that as a host, we're, like, obligated to deal with such an etiquette crime, but that is the most gracious thing.

Leah: It's the most gracious. I mean, there isn't—I don't think it's wrong in any way to be like, "This is sort of overwhelming for me. You've doubled the people. I wasn't ready."

Nick: Yeah. And how could you be? So yeah, I think you have to tough it out. I think after the visit, I think there is an opportunity to say something which is like, "Oh, it was so great seeing you and catching up, but I need to be honest, we were a little surprised for the extra guests. And we felt a little overwhelmed, and it put a lot of stress on our space and our food and our energy. So next time, we would just want to confirm the guest list in advance, if possible."

Leah: It's so hard to wrap my head that somebody would just show up.

Nick: But they had sleeping bags, Leah.

Leah: They did have sleeping bags, you know?

Nick: So, you know, it's fine.

Leah: So I guess it's fine. They could just sleep in the backyard and eat shrubs and berries.

Nick: Yes. Just eat your lawn. Yes.

Leah: Also, can you imagine nine people using your bathroom?

Nick: Um, it's just ...

Leah: It's too much! It's too much.

Nick: Also, a question is: Did they all fit in one car? I mean, this is more people than the Von Trapps.

Leah: [laughs] No, no, no. Gonna start singing. How funny would it be if they showed up and you were like, "Hey, if you're gonna bring this many people. I'm expecting show tunes."

Nick: Well, I expect that we have SATB. I expect there's enough people for all parts, because we're gonna do four part harmony and I expect all the roles to be filled.

Leah: I would have trouble not making jokes constantly to be like, "Oh, I hope you brought a porta-potty. You guys paying for water?"

Nick: And I guess, will there be a next time? I would really think long and hard before we extend invitations to this family member again.

Leah: I would really want them to recognize what they did was out of line.

Nick: Yes, but I don't know if we could trust them again. I don't know if we could trust them to not show up with extra people.

Leah: This is—these are the thoughts that just ran through my head. Not even people. I was like, these people could show up and they'd be like, "You know what? I now have cows. And I brought two of them, their Shetlands with me." And then I thought, but you know what? I would love that. That was all the thoughts, so then I didn't say any of it, but now I just felt like I had to run through what the thoughts were because there was such a long pause.

Nick: But it is true, yeah. If you show up with four extra teenagers, what else might you show up with?

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: The mind wanders. Who knows what else you can put in your car?

Leah: But it's not just four teenagers, it's four strangers—teenagers. These aren't relatives. We don't know these people.

Nick: Yes, these are strangers. Yeah.

Leah: It would be slightly different if it was like, "Oh, this is my cousin who I know, and she was in town." You know what I mean? At least then you're like, "I get the context." These are—you've gone out and invited strangers to my home.

Nick: Yeah. And almost 50 percent of the guest lists are strangers at this point.

Leah: Fifty percent is strangers! What are we doing?

Nick: What are we doing? So letter-writer, I'm sorry this happened to you.

Leah: I'm so sorry this happened.

Nick: This is bonkers. And so oh, well.

Leah: And obviously, our letter-writer is so flexible and lovely. They're like, "Oh, it was three and now it's five. No problem."

Nick: That's a big jump from five to nine.

Leah: And now we went to nine.

Nick: We went to nine. Yeah. So our next question is quote, "When is it appropriate, if ever, to politely tell a business that some of their signage has misspelled words? I was recently at a doctor's office, and there were several duplicate signs posted around the office with three misspelled words. The words were 'cooperation,' 'insurance' and 'information.' Not exactly difficult words. Being an educator, I quietly told the receptionist about it, and she said, 'I know. The signs came from corporate. I tried to tell them, but I only work here.' And that was it. I felt bad bringing it up, but it looks so unprofessional to have printed signs with misspelled words. Should I just grin and bear it when I see this in a business?"

Leah: I just want to say really quick, the place where I do not want to see misspelled signs is at my doctor's office.

Nick: Yeah. I think I do want a level of precision and attention to detail in a medical office.

Leah: In a medical facility, I would love it.

Nick: Similarly, I want that at my accountant's, at the lawyer's. Like, I think any professional office where them being, like, attentive to detail is important.

Leah: [laughs] Is important.

Nick: Like, if you misspelled "bananas" at the supermarket, like, I'm good with that. Like, that's fine. I can handle that.

Leah: Yeah. I'll move forward, and I'll just sing the song. "B-A-N-A-N-A-S!"

Nick: Or "B-A-N-S-A-S." Or however they misspelled it.

Leah: [laughs] However they spelled it.

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. I think that's an important criteria. So the way I was thinking about this is first, make sure you're correct. Make sure that these are actually misspelled. I think that's the first step. And I feel like we just need to say that, because so often I do get emails from people where they want to correct me, but they're wrong. So step one, always make sure you're correct.

Leah: Which we know our letter-writer was correct. And Nick's just saying this for other people.

Nick: Yes. This is not for our letter-writer. I'm just saying, in general, if you're gonna come after me, make sure you're right.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: [laughs] So yes. Also, I'm just like, how do you misspell, like, "insurance?" Like, okay.

Leah: "Insurance" is the one I actually get.

Nick: Oh, really?

Leah: Yeah.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: Because I think people struggle with Ss and Cs.

Nick: Okay. So "information?"

Leah: "Information" I feel like—I don't know what—I mean, you know, honestly, people can misspell anything. But "insurance?" It's the same as with "license." You know what I mean?

Nick: Oh, I bet "insurance" was "-ence." As opposed to "-ance."

Leah: Oh, you think do? I was thinking they went "inscur ..."

Nick: Hmm. Okay.

Leah: "-anse"

Nick: Okay. "Cooperation?" I can see how we might, like, have gotten to, like, "coperation" or something.

Leah: I mean, people can misspell anything.

Nick: Sure.

Leah: I love that Nick and I are trying to guess what the misspellings were.

Nick: So okay, first make sure you're correct. Second, make sure it's a place where it matters. So, like, medical office, law, anything where like, attention to detail. And then I guess for me, the third thing to think about is, like, can they do anything about this? Is this a sign that has been mounted on the side of the building and is, like, permanent? If it is, I guess we kind of let it go. If it's an 8.5"x11" printed sign that they could, like, print a new one out, I think that makes it easier to say something.

Leah: I think our letter-writer was very polite that they sort of just whispered it.

Nick: Yes. Yes, I think that was kind, because they did whisper it to somebody who was hypothetically in a position to pass the word along. And so I think that's good.

Leah: Because you don't want to embarrass people.

Nick: No. And also I think there is a fine line between, like, doing this kind thing, which is like, "Oh, I'm just, like, wanting to let you know in a kind way," and just being pedantic.

Leah: Yes. That was the word I was gonna use, too.

Nick: So yeah, I think that matters, that line. Because, like, in a supermarket, if the sign says like, "Oh, 10 items or less," just let that go. Yes, technically that is grammatically incorrect but, like, just let it go. That would be pedantic to bring this up.

Leah: I always find this hard because you want to be helpful.

Nick: Yes.

Leah: But also you don't want to—there's that line, like we were saying—like, remember we had that question, it was a long time ago, about somebody was making—our letter-writer's friend was starting a business and they were, like, making posts on their new business's Facebook page.

Nick: Ah, right, right, right.

Leah: And they were misspelling things.

Nick: Right.

Leah: And it was like, how to be helpful without being the person who is like, "You look like an idiot."

Nick: I think when something is public facing, I think it is kind to maybe point it out. So a Facebook post, a public sign. I think the weight of the evidence leans towards saying something.

Leah: Privately.

Nick: Because I don't think I would want to go through life with a typo. Like, if there was a typo on our website—well, I know our listeners would let me know. So I'm not worried about it. They'll let me know real fast. But I would want to know. I wouldn't want a typo just to, like, live on my website forever. So I think if I can be told in a nice way, that assumes that I inadvertently did it and I didn't do it because I'm an idiot, I guess that that would be good. Like, oh, this typo was just like a typo. Oopsie-daisy. Not like, oh, you don't know how to spell things.

Leah: People—and I'm including myself—can feel insecure with the idea that they got something wrong publicly.

Nick: And I think we just want to be sensitive to that. For sure.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: For sure.

Leah: Yes.

Nick: And then there are times when I think we do keep our mouth shut. So, like, if you receive a wedding invitation with a typo? Oh, I don't think we say anything.

Leah: Yeah, it's already gone out.

Nick: It's done. Yeah. And I think there is a category of item where, like, oh, it cannot be fixed, so we just let it go.

Leah: And a lot of people are telling them and they would just be like, "I know! Too late!"

Nick: Yeah. No, exactly. You will not be also the first, so just let it go.

Leah: I do like the idea that we have a criteria now. Like, can we help? Is it forward facing, so it matters to their public image? And is it something that's changeable, and can we say it in a private manner so it's-—that we're saying it in, like, a helpful, non-condescending way?

Nick: Perfect. So our next question is quote, "I just learned that a friend from high school lost her spouse four years ago. I just found out today. Is it appropriate to send a sympathy card now with a handwritten message, or how do I go about acknowledging this loss? I don't want to stir up emotions or be uncouth. Any suggestions?"

Leah: I found this one really hard.

Nick: Oh, really?

Leah: I was looking forward to your thoughts, Nick.

Nick: What were your thoughts initially?

Leah: I think that I'm exactly like this letter-writer where it's like, when you find out something, and then your main goal is you want them to know that you're thinking of them, they are loved, that you're sorry that they've been through this. And then you're like, will my actions of mentioning it bring up something? Because, you know, sometimes people are handling things and they're moving forward with their day, and you don't want to just bring something up out of nowhere because it actually makes them feel worse because they were not thinking about it.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: So then you're like, I don't want to do that to them. So I get why our letter-writer is like, "If I do do that, does that make it—am I bringing up something that they were not trying to think about that day because they're just handling life," you know? Not that that's necessarily what it is, but I understand how those are the thought processes of our letter-writer. Like, what is the kindest thing I can do?

Nick: Yes, I think that is the thrust here. We want to do the kind thing. And so yes, I think it is a good question: What is the kind thing? And so I think if you knew that this person did not want to be reminded of their loss, like, if you knew that, well then yeah, of course, let's not go out of her way to do that to them. But absent that, I think we would send the note. I think we would send the note, and I think we would want to send the note in the mail, because I think that allows them to engage with the note on their terms so they can just sort of deal with it when they want to or are comfortable. If it's a phone call or it's a text message, that's a little more in their face. And so I feel like that's actually less kind. But I think a handwritten note, I think this is very nice. And as long as it's not about you, like, "Oh, like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like, I didn't know. And, like, this letter is really about me. And me feeling guilty about, like, not acknowledging it." Like, don't do that. But if it's really, truly, like, "Oh, I just found out, and I just want to express my sympathy," I think that's nice. I think they'll appreciate it.

Leah: I do think that's nice. And I, after my initial understanding why it was a hard call, that was what I landed on as well, that it is always nice. And I also like the idea of it being a card, that way—exactly like you said, Nick—they can engage with it on their own time, as opposed to, like, maybe they're at work.

Nick: Yeah. And when they get it, they may not necessarily know what it is, but at least they're probably in a place where, like, you know, they can engage with it or not kind of on their own terms. They're probably at home.

Leah: Yep.

Nick: Yeah. So I think, when in doubt, send the note.

Leah: Send the note. It's nice to send a note.

Nick: It is. So our next question is quote, "We went to a newish, small, hip restaurant last night. We showed up on time for our reservation, and were seated not too long afterwards. It soon became clear, however, that things were very slow. It took quite a while to receive menus. I finally had to ask for them after another table seated a while after us received theirs. Orders and drinks took even longer, but honestly, we were okay. We weren't in a rush and were enjoying the evening. When the waitress brought our drinks, she told us that our drinks were on her since things had been crazy and we had been so patient. She let us know that the other waitress had called out sick and she was understaffed. This felt like a nice gesture—it wasn't needed, but we both appreciated it. When she brought the bill, however, both of our drinks were still on it. Normally, we leave a bigger tip when someone comps us something like that, but in this case, we didn't leave a bigger tip than normal. And we were also wondering if we should have said something. It felt kind of cheap to ask or remind her about it."

Leah: I totally get why it felt weird to bring it up.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, this is pretty awkward. It's awkward.

Leah: It's definitely awkward. I think either way, it's fine. If you wanted to say, "Hey. Oh, you had said you were gonna comp these."

Nick: Yeah, I'm inclined to say something in a nice way. Let's be nice about it.

Leah: Yeah, in a nice way.

Nick: Not like, "Oh, clearly you're so busy, like, you ruined our whole evening and you even forgot to do this. Like, of course you did." So not that.

Leah: No, not that one.

Nick: [laughs] Not that—not that way. But yeah, like, "Oh, looks like these drinks ended up on our bill."

Leah: And then I also think, you know, if you didn't want to have that conversation, I totally understand that, too.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, you were prepared to, like, pay for the drinks, so, like, okay.

Leah: But I think if it happens again, I think it's fine to bring it up.

Nick: Yeah, I think we could bring it up. Because I mean, I think she just forgot to do it, because she was, like, really busy.

Leah: Yeah.

Nick: So ...

Leah: I don't think it was on purpose.

Nick: Right. So as long as you asking isn't, like, accusatory or judgmental.

Leah: Which obviously it wouldn't be because they're our lovely letter-writers.

Nick: Right. Well, they're so lovely they just paid for the drinks.

Leah: Yes. I mean, that's—that's a Leah move.

Nick: So that's what happened there.

Leah: And I don't think it's cheap. I think you're just saying—reminding them of what they brought up. They offered. It was their offer.

Nick: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, you weren't like, "Oh, the service has been so slow. Would you comp our drinks?" Like, that's not what happened.

Leah: No, they offered, and then you were just, oh, giving them a little reminder.

Nick: Yeah. You're just following up on that. Yeah. So I think it's fine.

Leah: So next time.

Nick: Next time.

Leah: I love that we're getting all of these back pockets. We got a—we got a back pocket for next time the waiter or waitress forgets to comp something they said they would. And for when somebody shows up with four random teenagers.

Nick: With sleeping bags.

Leah: With sleeping bags.

Nick: [laughs] That makes all the difference.

Leah: I actually don't know if we got a back pocket for that one.

Nick: No, there is no backpack for that.

Leah: Oh, our back pocket for that was turning the lights off and locking the door and pretending we are no longer home.

Nick: [laughs] Exactly. We've moved. So our next thing is so interesting. So ...

Leah: What would we say this is, Nick?

Nick: Well, so as you may recall, a few weeks ago, we had an unaired episode from the archives. And this was actually a test episode when we were just, like, sort of testing the mechanics of the show. And I guess I'd asked a bunch of my friends just to sort of like, email me questions, because we had no wilderness at that point other than just my wild friends. And so ...

Leah: We had no wilderness, and look, now we have so many amazing, amazing, amazing Wolves fans.

Nick: We have a big wilderness now. But one of the questions we got for this test episode was: If you see a stranger and you like their bra, is there a polite way to ask them where they got it? And so in this test episode, we do talk about it but, like, we go on way too long, and it's very—it's just too much. And so in this episode we just aired for our anniversary a few weeks ago, we just cut it out because it's like, no one needs this. But we did invite our listeners, like, oh, if you really want the answer, you're welcome to ask us again. And so people did. And so here is this question. So I guess let's answer it in a way that is ...

Leah: Not 45 minutes long?

Nick: Not 45 minutes long. Yeah, exactly. So if you see a stranger, Leah—well, I guess, does this come up? When is this coming up?

Leah: Here's the thing. I felt like in the original question, did we not say—was it a stranger?

Nick: Okay, maybe it wasn't a stranger. Is it not for strangers?

Leah: Because I believe that I landed on for friends, because how would I know with a stranger what normal—like, that it was different than ...

Nick: Oh, that's a good point. Like, if you're looking at a stranger, how would you know that their bra is doing the heavy lifting versus just their natural—okay. So if you had a friend and you're like, "Wow, what a different look you have today."

Leah: "I love this fit."

Nick: "I love this fit. Doesn't that sweater look different?" Oh, see, we're already going down this path again, Leah.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: The very thing we tried to avoid. But okay. So I guess yeah, if you see a stranger, yeah, you can't say anything. Of course you can't. No. There is no way.

Leah: Even if I see a stranger and I'm like, whatever's happening—because, like, I'll notice it. To be completely candid with our listeners, I will notice it in movies and films. You know, you think about the wardrobe people.

Nick: Mm-hmm?

Leah: And I also think about, like, in different decades in America and all over the world, there has been completely different looks.

Nick: Yes, that's true. Definitely, like, 1940s versus 1990s, like, these are very different silhouettes.

Leah: Or even the Victorian age. I mean, that's a different ...

Nick: Sure.

Leah: So I will often wonder, "I wonder what that is. I wonder what's going on here."

Nick: Okay. What magic is at work?

Leah: What magic is happening here? But if I saw that, and I will think—because you're like, "Oh, I would like to have a shirt fit in that way," but then if I saw that on a stranger, or I'm, like, walking through Marshalls, I would not walk up to them and go, "Please tell me your undergarment situation." Even though maybe I really want to.

Nick: Yes. So I feel like strangers, yeah, there is no way to do it. This is off limits.

Leah: And also, I want to just add to that if a stranger walked up to me and said," I love the whole situation you have going on here. Can you tell me what your undergarments are?" Not only would I tell them, I would—that would carry me through the rest of the week. This would be if it was a woman.

Nick: Oh, sure. Oh, yeah. I mean, yes.

Leah: I just feel like I need to be clear.

Nick: That is a fine distinction to make. Yes.

Leah: But I would not do it at the risk of being disrespectful. But if I had a friend, and I would be like, "Hey, I love this whole fit—" because I ask my girlfriends, I'll be like, "Does anybody have any recommendations for a new sports bra?" You know what I mean? Because you gotta get information. This is how we—this is how we learn. We ask our girlfriends for stuff.

Nick: Okay. Yes, I think if you have that relationship, if you have that rapport already where this conversation feels organic, then okay. But I think you need to have that rapport, and you don't necessarily have this rapport with everybody.

Leah: Yes. You have to have that rapport. Also, I feel like—one time I just put the call out to all of my friends on my Instagram, and I was like, "I am looking for—" and I said exactly what the look I was looking for was. "Please send me your ideas."

Nick: Well, I think that's fine to put out an APB.

Leah: I guess I did.

Nick: An "all-points bra."

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Sure. No, I think that's fine because you are inviting this information.

Leah: I was inviting the information.

Nick: But yeah, I don't think you would, like, see a photo of a friend and, like, DM them and be like, "What is happening?"

Leah: I might.

Nick: You might.

Leah: If I have that rapport. Because it's—at the end of the day, it's a compliment. "I love this."

Nick: Yes. Okay.

Leah: But it would have to be a very particular kind of friend. I know which friends I can do that with and which friends I don't.

Nick: Okay. All right, so then that's that then.

Leah: What's amazing is that it was probably like a 15-minute conversation in the original?

Nick: [laughs] This definitely feels abbreviated. Yeah.

Leah: Briefs. It feels a-briefs-iated.

Nick: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Leah: Thank you for being supportive.

Nick: Yeah. All these puns feel like a wire digging.

Leah: [laughs] Bravo!

Nick: Okay.

Leah: Bravo.

Nick: I feel uplifted.

Leah: I will tell you one time I gave completely unsolicited advice in this category.

Nick: Okay?

Leah: I was at a laundromat. This was in Queens, my regular laundromat and there was a man in there doing laundry.

Nick: Mm-hmm?

Leah: And it was obviously him and a woman's. And he was not familiar with washing machines. This seemed to be very new for him. He'd asked for help, and then he was just moving everything into the—and I was like, "Don't dry the bras!"

Nick: You're like, "Nooo!"

Leah: I was like, "No! No, they're hang dry!"

Nick: I feel like that was a kindness.

Leah: I feel like I was being kind to her.

Nick: Yeah. I feel like whoever owned those bras would appreciate your intervention.

Leah: Yes. I was like, "You're also gonna wanna pull that sweater out, too. Trust me on this."

Nick: Although I mean, kind of on her, though, to just, like, shove it all in the laundry basket and send him on his way.

Leah: Yeah, but you don't know. No disrespect to gentlemen. No disrespect. I love you all. But she probably told him.

Nick: [laughs] That's true.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: That's a good point. Uh-huh. Okay, Fair enough. So you out there, do you want to tell us something? Let us know! You can let us know through our website, WereYouRaisedByWolves.com Or you can tell us in a voicemail or send us a text message: (267) CALL-RBW. And we'll see you next time.

Leah: Bye!

Nick: Bye!