Enduring Dishes You Dislike, Managing Ungrateful Gift Recipients, Acknowledging Victories Without Praise, and More

Nick: Hey, everybody. It's Nick Leighton.

Leah: And it's Leah Bonnema.

Nick: And we had so many great questions from you all in the wilderness ...

Leah: [howls]

Nick: ... that we have a bonus episode. So here we go. Our first question is quote, "I'm a terribly picky eater, and I have been since I was a kid. It's not health related, I'm just picky. My wife and I got together when we were in high school, and I, of course, wanted to make a good impression on her family. Her mother makes stuffing for Thanksgiving with sausage in it, and I don't like sausage. At Thanksgiving when we first got together, her mom made me a special stuffing just for me with turkey sausage. My mother-in-law thought I just didn't eat pork sausage, but it's sausage in general that I don't like. This super kind woman made me an entire separate stuffing dish with turkey sausage just for me—without asking—and proudly places it in front of me at the table. I ate it. Of course I ate it. This led to the next 10 years where she goes out of her way to make me this special turkey sausage stuffing dish every single year. And I soldier through it every year.

Nick: "Then at a pre-wedding party for us, our moms meet, conversation leads to me being a picky eater, and my future mother-in-law confides in my mom, 'Oh, I know she's picky. I make her a turkey sausage stuffing dish just for her every Thanksgiving.' My mom, my lovely, honest, tipsy mom, responds, 'She hates sausage. What did you say you make for her?' Yeah, that happened. So they both turn on me, and I sheepishly admit that no, I don't like sausage, and no, I didn't tell you and yes, I ate it every year. Oopsie! When, if ever, could I have fixed this before we got here? Was there anything I could have done to have spared my poor mother-in-law? Help!"

Leah: You know me, Nick. I would have also eaten the turkey sausage.

Nick: [laughs] Yeah, you're not the person to ask here.

Leah: I also don't think that this was—I mean, I get why you did it. She was doing something special for you, and then you're in it. So I feel like you could have just been like, "Look, it was so sweet that you did this. I didn't know how to tell you. I appreciated how much you went out of your way for me."

Nick: Okay, so you would go the honest approach.

Leah: I would just be totally honest about it, and then—and then be like, "I just didn't know how to tell you."

Nick: Okay. I mean, I guess—I guess that works. In my mind, I was thinking, like, "Oh, I usually don't like sausage, but of course I like your sausage."

Leah: Yeah, but then she's gonna keep making the sausage.

Nick: That's true. Yeah. We want to avoid that. [laughs] That's true.

Leah: I think we just want to make her feel like the reason we ate it was because we felt the love she was giving to us.

Nick: Oh, that's good. I like that angle.

Leah: And that's why it was hard to tell her, because you so appreciated that gesture.

Nick: Right. Yes, "I don't love sausage, but I love the love."

Leah: Yes.

Nick: Yeah. Actually, that would be the way to play it. Right.

Leah: It is nice to feel taken care of.

Nick: Oh, for sure.

Leah: Or somebody does something special for you, and then you see why it was hard to be like, "Oh no, I don't like this either."

Nick: Right. I mean, I think what I find interesting about this is this is very common, where somebody thinks you like a thing and they keep doing it for you, or keep buying it for you or keep making it for you. And then you get in too deep. And then, like, yeah, what do you say when you've created the impression, like, oh, I like this thing.

Leah: I have had this, but it wasn't that I liked it. It was that I couldn't eat it.

Nick: Mmm. Yes. But this similar idea. Yeah.

Leah: So I started saying things like, "Dustin really loves this."

Nick: Okay. Yeah. Little deflection.

Leah: And then they'll be like, "Oh, what about you?" And then I was like, "Oh, I can't eat blankety blank."

Nick: Can we come up with a rule, though, an etiquette rule for how we handle this? Because I don't want to live in a world in which I have to spend a decade eating sausage that I don't want to eat. Like, there has to be a better etiquette solution to this.

Leah: How about if, with this situation—because you're a little taken off guard when—the first time and they just made it. They made it for the first time, and you're like—and it's not something you don't eat, it's just something you don't like.

Nick: Right. And that's an important distinction. Like, you are capable of eating it.

Leah: You could say—like, with this, she could have eaten it and been like, "Ah." And then she could say, "Next year, hey, can you tell your mom that I've stopped eating all sausage together? But I really appreciate it."

Nick: Okay. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I agree. Year one, we're eating the sausage. That's happening. Then it's about year two. And so okay, your idea is we're going to, through our partner, relay the message that this is not the ideal sausage situation for us.

Leah: Yeah. That we've—we've just eliminated sausage from—any kind of sausage from our diet entirely.

Nick: Okay. And we don't have to say when that happened, which was, you know, 20 years ago.

Leah: Yeah, we leave out the date when that happened.

Nick: Mm-hmm.

Leah: But we so appreciate the gesture. We didn't want her to do that work ahead of time.

Nick: Yeah, I think that's the move. Yeah, I think that's what we would do.

Leah: Okay, good. We have a plan.

Nick: Great. So our next question is quote, "My husband and I recently gifted his parents a coffee subscription. Because the service allows you to pick your own options, they send the gift via email. Unfortunately, we discovered that my father-in-law did not receive the email. It might have ended up in his spam folder. We were, however, able to forward the gift email to him and apologize for the snafu within a day or two. He sent back a rather terse response expressing frustration that he hadn't received the original email, and detailing the difficulties he had signing up to redeem the gift. He considers himself somewhat tech savvy, so this isn't usually an issue. I was slightly mortified, and responded to once again apologize for any issues that he had, let him know that the last thing we intended was to gift him more work, and even thanked him for letting us know so we wouldn't use this company in the future. My husband then apologized again on a video call during which his father was rather cold about it and seemed miffed.

Nick: "I hate that our well-intentioned gift went awry, but how else could we have handled this? And how do you recommend dealing with a disgruntled gift recipient? I know Leah would be inclined to let my husband deal with this, as it is his father. However, he's more irritated than I am by his father's lack of grace, and I'm trying to avoid similar situations for the future since my husband says he wants to keep exchanging gifts with them, which I usually coordinate. In fact, up until this incident, my husband was considering gifting my in-laws a once-in-a-lifetime trip that would have been a sizable expense. I'm certainly having second thoughts now. If my father-in-law got irritated about an email issue, how is he going to be if he doesn't love the itinerary? What should we do?"

Leah: I think there's a lot of layers in here.

Nick: There's a lot of layers.

Leah: Well, in order ...

Nick: Okay. Oh, you got a list?

Leah: No, I mean the first question was how could we have handled it differently with the coffee subscription. I don't think you could have.

Nick: Ah, the only thing, the only idea I had for that would be once there was an email problem, we could have placed the order for the father-in-law and be like, "Oh, you tell me what coffees you want, we'll place the order for you. Don't trouble yourself."

Leah: Okay?

Nick: But yeah, I mean, what you did is fine. I mean, that's just an idea of, like, a slight improvement that may be available.

Leah: Also, I assume there's things he has to read. Like, there's all these choices.

Nick: Well, I think the idea would be like, "Oh, we'll go onto the website, and then on a video call, we'll walk you through. Like, oh, do you want the Kenyan variety? Oh, you want Kona?" And then he tells us what he wants and then we place the order. But, like, that would be what you would do with somebody who is not tech savvy.

Leah: Yeah, he's—he fancies himself as tech savvy.

Nick: Right. And this is not a tech issue. Like, we just had an email that went to the spam folder and he didn't get it. So, like, this is not a technical problem, this is just him being a brat.

Leah: Well, and then it said—and then detailing the difficulties he had signing up to redeem the gift.

Nick: Okay. All right, so there's a little—there's a little something there.

Leah: Yeah. It seems like he's really digging into not liking something when it was just a gift.

Nick: Yeah, he decided he didn't like this, and then he just really wanted to take that to the nth degree.

Leah: Because I mean, you're complaining about a gift is not ...

Nick: No. No, that's rude.

Leah: Because you've apologized twice. You apologized in the email, and then you apologized on a video call.

Nick: And then our letter-writer says that you think that the husband should deal with this. So is that true?

Leah: I know I have a—the child of the person deals with it.

Nick: Yes. The Bonnema child-of-the-parent rule.

Leah: This is an interesting situation because she does the gifts.

Nick: Right. Yes. As is very common.

Leah: And he's more upset than she is.

Nick: Right. Okay.

Leah: So I think that adds layers. I think that in a relationship, often we as partners talk each other off being-mad-at-their-parents ledges.

Nick: [laughs] Okay. That's one of the services that's provided.

Leah: That's one of the services that's provided.

Nick: In a partnership. Uh-huh.

Leah: You say things like, "Water from a stone. They're doing the best they can."

Nick: Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And I guess having a little distance gives you a slightly better perspective of really what is happening. Sure.

Leah: Also, it's interesting, because a lot of the things that have come up previously is that the not child of the parent is the only person having the issue.

Nick: True. Okay. Yes. And we're all having the issue here.

Leah: We're all having the issue. So just to say it's layered.

Nick: It is layered.

Leah: I see two options. The son could say, "Dad, I love exchanging gifts with you. I want to continue exchanging gifts with you, but I don't want you being upset if something goes—if there's a few extra steps in the present." And see what he says.

Nick: Uh, okay. I don't—yeah, I mean, I appreciate that approach. I don't know if that's the approach here, because he's just being sort of moody and bratty. And so to corner him on that about future gifts, I don't think that's gonna be a productive conversation. I think I would much rather just not say anything and change the behavior on my end. So, like, I'm not gonna give you a gift that requires any work. These are gonna be fully-formed goods. This is a box of chocolates that are ready to eat. This is a vase that you just take out of the box. Like, nothing requires assembly. Nothing requires any steps. Nothing requires any shipping. Like, here is the gift. It already exists in its fully-realized form.

Leah: Okay. Well, I like that idea. If he then complains about one of those, I think we could have that conf—well, we could have that conversation.

Nick: Okay. Yeah, like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. It feels like nothing pleases you."

Leah: I mean, we could say it in a different way.

Nick: [laughs] Okay. I thought that was pretty polite.

Leah: "I'm so sorry. It feels like nothing pleases you?"

Nick: Okay. Well, what do you want to say? "Hey, Dad, it feels like you're hard to please."

Leah: Well, I think I would say, "Hey, it feels like you haven't liked the past gifts that I've given you."

Nick: Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, everybody should know that dads only like whiskey, knives, rocks for whiskey. What else are always in the gift guides for men?

Leah: Golf balls.

Nick: Golf balls. [laughs] That's it. So if you're not buying one of those items, dads don't like it. Coffee is not on that list.

Leah: I have no men in my life that those would be gifts for.

Nick: [laughs] Golf balls, whiskey, knives. But it's really true, like, every, like, what to get dad, like, it's just that's all it is.

Leah: Very funny, though. I have been gifted multiple knives.

Nick: I mean, that's a good gift for you.

Leah: As a Mainer?

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: And then this last question. "My husband was considering gifting my in-laws a once-in-a-lifetime trip."

Nick: Mmm, that seems dicey.

Leah: Well, what do you think?

Nick: So I was thinking that I don't like the idea of using this one episode to, like, dramatically change all the gifts in our relationship moving forward, I would like to think this was a one off. I don't know what was happening. Maybe they don't like coffee. Like, you know, there's some explanation for what is happening here. Or he just has a very low tolerance for inconveniences, which is new to you, which you were unaware of until this episode. So let's say this is a one off. But I don't also love the idea of, like, oh, here's a $20,000 safari. And so I think I would want to maybe do a tester trip. So, like, "Oh, we want to treat you to a long weekend in Nashville." And, like, try that. You know, something that's not as expensive as this once-in-a-lifetime trip, and just see how that goes. If that's a disaster, if he complains about everything, well, then asked and answered. But if that goes well, then okay.

Leah: I like this plan, because I had no—I also felt the same way that it's like, if this is the one time that he's behaved this way, or were there inklings before?

Nick: Right.

Leah: You know, are we just gonna cut everything off because of this one time? But I like this plan. This way we can test it out.

Nick: Yeah. I would like to do a tester trip. Also, I would want to dig a little deeper in why was this coffee thing such a problem? Does he not like coffee? Is the idea that he had to choose things, or that he didn't get to choose this gift at all and he wants more input or less input? And I think maybe that detail might inform, like, the travel plans.

Leah: I think if I had to hedge a guess as to why he got upset, it would be—I think it may—he fancies himself as tech savvy.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: He couldn't find the email.

Nick: Right.

Leah: Had to ask for help, and then he had trouble signing in. I think it made him feel less tech savvy.

Nick: Yeah. Okay.

Leah: And sort of—I'm not gonna use the word insecure. But ...

Nick: He felt a certain way about it.

Leah: He felt a certain way about it, and then instead of feeling maybe a little vulnerable that he couldn't figure it out, and then so he dealt with that by being ...

Nick: A brat.

Leah: ... moody about it.

Nick: Yeah.

Leah: Instead of being like, "Oh, this made me feel insecure. I'm usually so good at these things."

Nick: Okay, I think that's an explanation. Yeah.

Leah: That was my immediate thought when I read it. So I think that actually a fixed itinerary, then he doesn't have to make any—make any choices that are gonna make him feel insecure.

Nick: And then I guess the question is: are you going on this trip or are you just gifting it?

Leah: No, I think they're all going together.

Nick: Oh, you think it's a group trip?

Leah: Yes.

Nick: I'm not sure. I feel like ...

Leah: You're right. I hadn't even thought of it that way. But you're right, it could be either.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, part of me feels like, do we just gift it and then have a good time or not have a good time but, like, that's not my problem? And so, like, bon voyage?

Leah: Okay, so they say "gifting my in-laws." So there are two of them. So I wonder if we could talk to the other person and be like, "We're thinking about giving you this gift, but Dad didn't seem to, like, be into the last thing. He sort of seemed kind of—didn't like the way we did it. And so I don't want to do that if you think—what do you think?"

Nick: Mm-hmm. Okay, I like that. Yeah. Loop in the partner there. Yeah, that actually—that's the best idea.

Leah: So the son could talk to the mom.

Nick: Yeah. Okay. And just make sure if you do get this trip that the itinerary makes it to his inbox and doesn't go to the spam folder.

Leah: Well, print it out. Put it in a folder.

Nick: Exactly. Yeah. We need hard copy for that.

Leah: Hard copy.

Nick: So our next question is quote, "The news has broken that someone from my state is the newly elected president of an association that I belong to and whose conference I will be attending next week. Long story short, he is a lying, smarmy, self-congratulatory bully. I will run into him at the conference as I am a presenter and was on the committee for another winner at the award ceremony where he will be presented. I will not be applauding, but I need words for when we come face to face. When confronted with a new baby, my husband always says, 'Now that is a baby!' He is so enthusiastic that everyone thanks him for what is not a compliment, as he thinks all newborns are ugly—not his own, of course. I need a phrase like that. I was thinking, 'Wow, you won!' Or maybe, 'It's gonna be a long two years,' or—thoughts?"

Leah: [laughs] A) I love that "Now that is a baby."

Nick: [laughs]

Leah: I love this. I love this whole question. Lying, smarmy. "Long story short, he is a lying, smarmy, self-congratulatory bully."

Nick: Yeah, he seems fun.

Leah: I came up with two versions of the same sentence.

Nick: Okay.

Leah: I came up with, "Chad. Wow! Who would have thought?"

Nick: "Who would have thought?"

Leah: Or, "Chad. Wow! Who would have guessed?"

Nick: "Who would have guessed?" Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's—yeah, that's kind of neutral. That's neutral. I mean, I was thinking you have two paths. One is, do you want this person to know that you loathe them? Like, do you want to convey that? Because I feel like our letter-writer does want to convey a little, like, wants to twist the knife a little bit. You know, wants to have a veneer of politeness and cordialness, but wants to have something that is a little cutting. I feel like that's what our letter-writer wants.

Leah: I think they want something that's not a compliment.

Nick: Right.

Leah: But it's not rude.

Nick: Right. Yeah, they want to try to thread that needle. So I had a few ideas. One was, "Quite something, isn't it?"

Leah: I like that one. "Quite something!"

Nick: Yeah. This is the same flavor of yours. And then, "Big week for you." And then I had, "Well, look at that!"

Leah: "Well, look at that!"

Nick: And then, of course, the classic, "Well, here we are." [laughs]

Leah: I'm rolling "Big week for you" around in my head. "Big week for you!"

Nick: "Big week for you."

Leah: "Big week for you!"

Nick: And then I actually often say this, although I don't know if it would read in the right way, but I often say, like, "Well, that happened."

Leah: I think if you could change the way you say happened, you could land that in this situation. You could be like, "Well, that happened."

Nick: Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. "Well, that happened." That seems nice, right? Ish?

Leah: I'm happy with all of these options.

Nick: And then I was thinking you could say something that is more about the organization. So, like, "Wishing you a productive term."

Leah: Yes. I mean, I think that if she wanted to go that way.

Nick: Right?

Leah: Which is not the way I feel they want to go. But you could just talk about the organization. I like that as an option.

Nick: "Here's to a new chapter."

Leah: "That I wish you weren't leading."

Nick: [laughs] Yeah. Okay. So I think, what did we settle on? What should our letter-writer do?

Leah: I still like, "Chad. Wow! Who would have thought?" Or, "Who would have guessed?" And then I like your, "Big week for you."

Nick: Yeah.. "Big week for you." I kind of like "big week for you" because it feels very temporary.

Leah: It also is, like, it's not a big week for the rest of us.

Nick: Right. And the joy of this moment is fleeting.

Leah: [laughs]

Nick: Yes. It's just focused on a slight bump this week. But it is not long term. It is not about the future. It is not an indefinite congratulations.

Leah: I'm actually very proud of the list we came up with.

Nick: Yeah. No, I think all these are pretty solid. So try this. We hope you try one of these, and if you do, let us know how it goes.

Leah: Also, if you try something else, let us know how it goes.

Nick: Yeah. Yeah, whatever you try.

Leah: Let us know how it goes.

Nick: So our next question is quote, "I recently made a visit to New York for the weekend to visit some friends. I got in on a Friday evening, and my girlfriend and I had planned to get drinks and dinner with a married couple friend of ours—let's call them Chad and Lisa. We were running a few minutes behind due to travel delays, but they said they would meet us at a bar near the restaurant. Without asking us, Chad ordered us each a drink to have waiting for us when we got there. I didn't know the place, and while the drink wasn't necessarily what I would have ordered for myself, I thought the gesture was very kind as I'd been traveling all day. We enjoyed the drinks, and then had a nice dinner where we all agreed to split the bill evenly. A few days later, I received a Venmo request from Chad for the dinner, and the message also included the drink from the bar. I was a little surprised to be requested for the drink as I had not ordered it, nor had I asked him to order it, but I decided to pay it anyway. So my question is: Am I wrong to think it is a bit rude to Venmo request someone for something that you had purchased for them without asking? My impression was that Chad and Lisa had purchased a drink for me as a small welcome into the city. Now the gesture feels a bit annoying. Am I wrong to feel this way?"

Leah: You are not wrong.

Nick: Nope, not wrong.

Leah: It's really wild to be like, "Hey, I got you this drink."

Nick: And then here's the bill.

Leah: And then here's the bill for it.

Nick: Yeah. I mean, what is that?

Leah: Honestly, what is it? I mean, you didn't even get to pick the drink. It wasn't even something you wanted.

Nick: No. I mean, there is a nice way to do this. I mean, I know sometimes I'll be meeting up with a friend for drinks or dinner. They might get to the restaurant early and they're like, "Hey, I got here early," and they might actually text me a photo of the drink menu and be like, "Hey, what's your ETA? Want me to order any of these for you?" And it's like, oh, isn't that nice to try to time my arrival and then the drink is there? Like, oh, that's wonderful. And then I get to pick the drink.

Leah: And then in that scenario, did you—would you pay them back for the drink?

Nick: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yes. No, I'm ordering a drink. Yes. So I take full responsibility for that.

Leah: Yes. Because you could also, in that situation, say, "Oh, no. I'm okay."

Nick: Right. Yeah. Or I'll wait 'til I get there. Or anything else.

Leah: Yeah. Because they weren't even given the chance to be like, "I don't want a drink."

Nick: Yeah. I mean, if I arrive and you've just ordered me something and, like, "Here you go," like, I'll be polite and actually drink it because, like, oh, this is a gift.

Leah: It is a gift.

Nick: And then like all good gifts, you don't charge people for them.

Leah: Oh my goodness. I don't like this one bit.

Nick: No. I think we need a term for when this happens, because this is actually, like, surprisingly common where, like, I do something for you, or I buy something for you, or I give you something, and then later on, like, I give you a bill for it.

Leah: Shock attack.

Nick: Is it a gift grift?

Leah: A gift grift. I like that.

Nick: Right? Or is it a faux favor?

Leah: I have Venmo requests stuck in my head, as if it would be like, "Venmo request blankety blank."

Nick: Yeah. I feel like the word "ambush" is in there somewhere.

Leah: It's an ambush.

Nick: Yeah, you're being ambushed.

Leah: But you're definitely not wrong. It's super weird. Not even just weird, it's rude.

Nick: It's rude. Yeah. So the rule is yes, if you order something for someone without their knowledge or permission, then yes, it is now a gift.

Leah: A hundred percent. No caveats.

Nick: Yeah. No, that's what that is. So our next question is quote, "I have an airplane etiquette question. On a recent daytime flight with my husband, I chose the window seat and he sat next to me. I prefer the window shade open, as I enjoy both the view and the natural light for reading. Fairly quickly, my husband gestured that I should close the shade, insisting that it was an unwritten rule of flying, and eventually implying that it was a matter of etiquette. I replied that it's the window-sitter's preference, and a disagreement commenced. Had this been an overnight flight where people were trying to sleep, I would have agreed with him. But as it was a midday flight, I maintain that it's not a matter of etiquette, but preference. I know you've covered airplane etiquette on several episodes, but I don't recall hearing this specific topic. Will you settle our dispute?"

Leah: I love the idea that it's, like, a couple and they were—she was like, "I'm gonna send it in."

Nick: Yeah, it's come to this. And yeah,we have not addressed this specific question.

Leah: Well, we did address it on Tamron Hall.

Nick: That's true. A version of it.

Leah: A version of it, yeah.

Nick: Yeah. And a dispute to settle? Oh, my favorite.

Leah: Absolutely is Nick's favorite.

Nick: Yeah. Oh, you don't enjoy it?

Leah: I mean, I ...

Nick: You could take it or leave it?

Leah: No, I enjoy it very much. And then there's a little part of me that wants to take an antacid, because, you know, you're like, "Oh, somebody's gonna be wrong in this situation."

Nick: Oh, I love it! So who's wrong? Who's right? How do we approach this?

Leah: I think it's the window-sitter's choice.

Nick: I think if we had to bottom line it, yes. But I think there's a lot of roads to take to get there.

Leah: I do think that if somebody was like, "Hey—" and they ask you, they don't reach across. They say, "Hey, I get really bad migraines from the sun."

Nick: Mm-hmm.

Leah: Or, "I am blankety blank. How would you feel if we ...?"

Nick: Yes. A reasonable request. "Oh, I need to work on my laptop." "I'm trying to watch a movie. There's some glare. Would you mind?"

Leah: But just closing it, I don't think is at all necessary.

Nick: Yeah, I think daytime flight is definitely different than a nighttime flight or a flight that is going to become nighttime, like a long flight. Yes. I think you could have the window up.

Leah: I also sit next to the window so I can look out the window. I don't sit next to the window, but if I did, that would be the only reason to sit there. I guess you also get a wall. You get somebody not next to you.

Nick: You get a little wall. Yeah. And I think the idea of sleeping, I mean, everybody should have an eye mask. I feel like it is on you as the person wanting to sleep, if you're bothered by light, it is on you to have an eye mask.

Leah: I really think it's the window-sitter's choice.

Nick: Yes. I think every seat has its perks. And so if you want access to someone else's seat perk, then you do need to ask them. And it is sort of their prerogative, yes. As long as they're not being actively rude with their perk. So, like, the aisle's perk is that they get easy access to the aisle, but if you need to get past them, they cannot unreasonably withhold consent.

Leah: And I think that the middle person gets the armrests.

Nick: Yes. It's the least we can do for you. Right. And then the window person, yeah, they do control the window. That is, you know, part of their domain. But if there's a reasonable request that comes in, they should try to accommodate it.

Leah: And also let me say if you know you're a person that has to get up, like, every 15 minutes ...

Nick: Uh-huh?

Leah: ... don't book yourself in a window seat or a middle seat. Don't do that to the aisle person.

Nick: No. Know thyself.

Leah: Know thyself.

Nick: So yeah, I think that's how we would get there. Yeah. Unless there's some compelling reason to the contrary, if you want to have the window up on a daytime flight. Okay.

Leah: I like that we agreed, Nick.

Nick: That is nice. Oh, what a lovely way to end the episode, Leah!

Leah: It's the perfect way to end the episode.

Nick: Harmony has been restored to the universe.

Leah: Mmm. Mmm-mmm!

Nick: So you out there, do you want to help restore harmony to the universe? Let us help! Send us your questions. You can send them to us through our website, WereYouRaisedByWolves.com. Or you can leave us a voicemail or send us a text message: (267) CALL-RBW. And we'll see you next time.

Leah: Bye!

Nick: Bye!